Saturday, July 31, 2010

OldCleat Redrafts Bengals Draft - 2010

OldCleat redrafts the Bengals draft once again, this time for the 2010 Draft. Yes, this is year three of my redrafting the Bengals draft. The rules are, I would draft a player that the Bengals had drafted, or someone drafted after the selection, until the Bengals selected again. So, my universe of players that I would have chosen were the players in-between the Bengals draft.

I have learned that my redrafting isn’t any better than the Bengals normal drafting, nor really worse. Since I’m picking folks near the same universe (or the same players), my track record has been about the same. So the proof in drafting will be in several years to see who is better. The image is from whatthebuc blog.

OK. Redrafting the Bengals draft, 2010:

Round one, 21st pick overall.
The Bengals selected Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma. I would have taken Sergio Kindle, DE - OLB, Texas, who fell to the second round, 43rd overall, to the Ravens. I like the Gresham pick, but I worry about the fact that he tore knee ligaments last year and missed the whole season. He does fill a huge hole that the Bengals have had for several years, namely a tight end that can go deep middle as well as block. Gresham, to me, is too much of a gamble. And if I’m going to gamble at this spot, I want to do it with an extremely talented front-seven defensive player. I am a sucker for really athletic guys like Kindle. I think he can play linebacker, and I think he could put his hand down and play a 4-3 defensive end. I passed on many players, including Jerry Hughes, who is also a DE – OLB, and Brian Price, the fireplug DT from UCLA.

Round two, 54th overall. The Bengals selected Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida. I would have taken Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama, who was selected 57th overall, by the Ravens. I have some mixed feelings about Dunlap. He was considered the most talented guy on a hugely talented Florida defense. He is a big, athletic DE, and he is considered a true 4-3 DE. But he had some off-field issues at Florida. At Florida. He was a top-10 talent, and if the Bengals can get that out of him, they may have something. Some questioned his desire. Anyway, I love Terrence Cody, who is an enormous DT and nose tackle. He reminds me of Ted Washington. I think Cody will dominate in the middle of a defense. He really would have taken up two blockers, provided some inside push, and freed up Bengal linebackers to make plays.

Round Three, 84th overall. The Bengals selected Jordan Shipley, WR, Texas. I would have taken Shipley’s battery-mate there at Texas, Colt McCoy, QB, who was selected the very next pick, 85th overall, by the Browns. I liked Shipley in college, and I think he has a chance to be a good slot receiver and return guy. But I really like McCoy. I thought he was the second-best QB prospect in the draft, after Sam Bradford. McCoy falling this far I think was a steal for the Browns. He may not be the tallest QB, but he has a good arm, is extremely accurate, is really athletic, and is a winner. By taking McCoy, I am passing on Navarro Bowman, LB, out of Penn State, who I also really liked. But I take a chance on the QB.

Round Three, 96th overall. The Bengals selected Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest. I would have taken Mike Johnson, G - OL, Alabama, who was drafted 98th overall by the Falcons. Ghee is really athletic, and he is big enough to play in the NFL. But he didn’t produce in college as much as he should have given his ability. The Bengals are taking a flier that they can coach Ghee up and make him a good CB. Johnson was a great guard at Alabama who also moved over to tackle. I also think he could play center if need be. He would a good addition on the offensive line.

Round Four, 120th overall. The Bengals select Geno Atkins, DT, Georgia. I would have selected Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB, Indiana (PA), who was taken by the Cowboys 126th overall. I like Geno Atkins some, and I hope that he works out well. I just liked another DT from Georgia, Jeff Owens, better. They are both pluggers, but I thought that Owens had more production in college. (Actually Georgia had three DTs drafted in 2010. Think about that.) Now I am drafting Owusu-Ansah a pick after passing on Ghee. Owusu-Ansah is a size-speed-quickness prospect out of a small school. He did produce quite well on the D-II level, and if he isn’t a CB, at 210 pounds with tackling ability, I think he can play free safety. And he’ll be a special teamer and maybe a returner.

Round Four, 131th overall (the last selection in the round). The Bengals take Roddrick Muckelroy, LB, Texas. I would have picked Robert Johnson, S, Utah, who was selected in the fifth round, 158th overall. Muckelroy is a solid player from a great school. I think he is a bit slight for linebacker, but he is really athletic. He projects to a Will, where he played as a junior. But last year he was moved to Mike because there was an injury problem. I hope that he will become a good player. I love Johnson, who I think can play free safety and strong safety. Also, in a pinch, I think that he could play cornerback. He is an athletic, tough, smart player who is a bit slight for safety.

Round Five, 152bd overall. The Bengals take Otis Hudson, G, Eastern Illinois. I would have picked Anthony McCoy, TE, Southern Cal, who was taken 185bh overall by the Seahawks. This is the head-scratcher pick the Bengals have every year. I have learned from last year not to call anyone names, because I was upset with the Bernard Scott pick, and he really worked out. Having said that, there were several players that Cincy passed on to take Hudson. I like McCoy the most, a good-blocking 250-pound TE who can catch the ball. He may not be able to stretch the field like Gresham, but he can catch.

Hudson is the worst pick the Bengals had this year, I think. With the other picks, I like the Bengals selections and think that they are in the same ballpark. Not so with this one. Here is the list of players I would have taken instead of Hudson: Andrew Quarless, TE, Penn State who can block and catch; Riley Cooper, a big third-down WR out of Florida; two strong safeties who could play special teams: Larry Asante from Nebraska or Reshad Jones from Georgia; Anthony Dixon, a big talented RB from Mississippi State; Greg Hardy, a big DE from Mississippi; two linemen from Notre Dame, Sam Young, a huge OT who may be able to play left tackle! or Eric Olsen, a tough-guy center; Dan LeFevour, the Tim Tebow-esque QB from Central Michigan who may be able to develop in the NFL; a blocking TE from Pitt, Nate Byham; Clifton Geathers, a big old DE from South Carolina who is from the Geathers family who could have joined brother Robert on the Bengals; and Jonathan Dwyer, the big, quick wishbone FB from Georia Tech who projects to TB in the NFL.

Round Six, 229th overall. The Bengals take Dezmon Briscoe, WR, Kansas. I would have taken Kyle Calloway, T, Iowa. Briscoe is a big WR with some speed and lots of production in college. I love Iowa offensive linemen, however, and Calloway is 6-8, 320 or so. Big, strong, productive, technique-sound college o-linemen like Calloway sometimes develop into very good NFL players.

Round Seven, 228bh overall. Bengals take Reggie Stephens, G, Iowa State. I would have taken Jeff Owens, DT, Georgia. Stephens may be a good guard, but I think Owens could be a very good run stuffer at DT.

I have learned that you can’t tell about a draft. Here are the drafts, however.

Cincy
1 21 overall, Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
2 54 overall Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
3 96 overall, Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest
3 84 overall Jordan Shipley, WR, Texas
4 120 overall, Geno Atkins, DT, Georgia
4 131 overall, Roddrick Muckelroy, LB, Texas
5 152 overall, Otis Hudson, G, Eastern Illinois
6 191 overall, Dezmon Briscoe, WR, Kansas
7 228 overall, Reggie Stephens, G, Iowa State

OldCleat
2 43 overall Ravens Sergio Kindle, DE - OLB Texas.
2 57 overall Ravens Terrence Cody, DT Alabama
3 85 overall Browns Colt McCoy, QB, Texas
3 98 overall, Falcons Mike Johnson, G, Alabama
4 126 overall, Cowboys, Akwasi Owusu-Ansah, CB, Indiana (PA)
5 148 overall, Titans, Robert Johnson, S, Utah
6 185 overall, Seahawks, Anthony McCoy, TE, Southern Cal
7 216 overall, Bills, Kyle Calloway, T, Iowa
7 243 overall, Eagles, Jeff Owens, DT, Georgia

Here is the 2009 draft comparison:

Cincy
1. Andre Smith, OT, Alabama.
2. Rey Maualuga, MLB, Southern Cal.
3. Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech.
3. Chase Coffman, TE, Missouri.
4. Jonathan Luigs, C, Arkansas.
5. Kevin Huber, P, Cincinnati.
6. Morgan Trent, CB, Michigan.
6. Bernard Scott, RB, Abilene Christian.
7. Fui Vakapuna, FB, BYU.
7. Clinton McDonald, DT, Memphis.
7. Freddie Brown, WR, Utah.

OldCleat
1. Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia.
2. Rey Maualuga, MLB, Southern Cal.
3. Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech.
3. Dorell Scott, DT, Clemson.
4. Jonathan Luigs, C, Arkansas.
5. Jasper Brinkley, MLB, South Carolina.
6. Morgan Trent, CB, Michigan.
6. Vance Walker, DT, Georgia Tech.
7. Nick Reed, DE-LB, Oregon.
7. Clinton McDonald, DT, Memphis.
7. P.J. Hill, RB, Wisconsin.

And here is the 2008 draft comparisons:

Cincy
1 Keith Rivers, LB, USC
2 Jerome Simpson, WR, Coastal Carolina
3 Pat Sims, DT, Auburn
3 Andre Caldwell, WR, Florida
4 Anthony Collins, T, Kansas
5 Jason Shirley, DT, Fresno State
6 Corey Lynch, S, Appalachian State
6 Matt Sherry, TE, Villanova
7 Angelo Craig, OLB, Cincinnati
7 Mario Urrutia, WR, Louisville

OldCleat
1 Keith Rivers, LB, USC
2 Quentin Groves, DE/LB, Auburn
3 Pat Sims, DT, Auburn
3 Justin King, CB, Penn State
4 Jack Ikegwuonu, CB/S, Wisconsin
5 Jonathan Goff, LB, Vanderbilt
6 Andre’ Woodson, QB, Kentucky
6 Chauncey Washington, RB, USC
7 Angelo Craig, OLB, Cincinnati
7 Wesley Woodyard, LB, Kentucky